Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners New vs Old - Tweeters

Yeah. I remember you telling me about the bbc dip. ( I think it was you ). That’s also what I meant about the source really mattering. I mean I just finished listened to Lee Ritenour and Larry Carlton album. Simply amazing on many levels.

https://open.spotify.com/album/1izCoiNwQyikt9zY9LQUdc?si=C69SDBZiRI245Yv-NkUEFw

Again I’m an n=1 experiment here but I think the ti tweet sounded great. I have the towers flush ( no toe in ) and it’s just incredible. Now if I play other tracks like Fleetwood Mac - Dreams - remastered..... It’s bright. No doubt there.

https://open.spotify.com/track/0ofHAoxe9vBkTCp2UQIavz?si=kcaaspRGTKGUzrTZwjgEKQ

So I keep coming back to the quality of the recording as being a huge factor in what gets put out thru the tweeters and woofers. These are very accurate speakers. IMO.

I guess the only way to really know is bite the bullet and try something v4 but I find it difficult to pay more $$$ when I already really love what I have.

In the meantime I’m just gonna enjoy the music.

Lee and Larry knocked it out of the park !!! Such a good album. I’m giddy from listening to that. So good. I know y’all know what I mean after a good listening session.

Michael, I know from previous discussions a couple of years ago, you like the dynamics of the M80s; just as you like fast cars. The M60s didn't have the 'nads you wanted for dynamics and that's where the M80s came in. This is terrific and I am very happy you found your happy place. Notice in my response to Kodiak, I said "Unless you need the higher SPL of the M80, the M60 is hands-down the better speaker"?

BTW Michael, I am correct 100% of the time +/- 3dB just like Ian says in this video at around 14:53 but you have to watch from the time below to get the context. So wonderful to see and hear Ian laughing.

https://youtu.be/BIgisk7QNMU?t=849

Given the emotions you've described, I say keep the M60Ti and get yourself at least one sealed sub. There is no point in waiting for a sub because you will always need at least one.

Oh, I don't have a great reason. I'm an impulse buyer of Axiom products I reckon...... My first Axiom speaker was the M80TI. I still have them and listen to them pretty much every day. They are playing "surround back" channels in my great room. I use this system for background music in multi channel stereo. They still kick ass.

I bought the M60's in real wood finish for my small HT room. It's 12' X 18'. I also thought they might play better with the 160, and I did not want the 180, so I went with the 60's. I also had some other real wood speakers, but in different colors/species, so one day I decided to buy a whole new system, matching all the speakers. I went with the M80's this time, because I always felt the M60's just didn't have the kick the M80's did.

And no, Mojo....lol..... I did not miss SPL, as I do not need to go deaf. The M80's hit harder, at lower SPL too. I like them better, no question, than the M60's.

I did not go with the HP drivers, cause I have no need for them, and that would just be throwing money away for no good reason.

From Mojo: "Understand however that imaging and soundstage are more important to me than full bass and dynamics."

You hit the nail on the head with that statement Mojo.

I've learned that speakers are just like a well prepared dish, some people are used to salty food and enjoy those bursts of flavor in every bite and some like a more bland flavor that allows you to identify, enjoy, and appreciate the other ingredients. Personally, I like it salty, I'll use texture to identify my other ingredients (plus or minus 3db). Yeah, i'm hungry. lol

Due to my listening environment, it's no wonder why I like it salty, since room acoustics / sound absorption have just as much to do with great sound, as the speaker themselves.

You have them set up along the 12'width, Michael. The actives would be perfect in that room! They'd give you the quiet kicks you like...LOL!

Rebulx, you live! I thought you passed on from a thigh lock. So just how badly did you fry your M100s and Emo?

BTW, this is salty.

https://open.spotify.com/track/5mg8Zn962HnQG63gzxJJWY?si=hBxPfeelT2SDjA3-azokfQ

wow mojo that was a great share. love that tune. I've also been listening to the live performances on apple music, spans 1960 to present, quite a good listen.


kodiak, appreciate all your questions as i've been learning from them, thanks.

During the last week I've had the opportunity to audition Elac, Martin Logan, and KEF's new Meta line. My personal opinion, Axioms v4 tweeter is similar to Elac's new stuff and the old ti tweeter sound is similar to the speakers that cost a bunch more like the b&w diamond series and the new LS50 Meta Kef bookshelves. imho. After all the listening i'm really happy with the M100s.

Hey Rebulx, my pleasure on the questions. I like learning stuff. I enjoy understanding how stuff works. And there’s no better way to learn then from those that have come before me. It’s all kinds subjective stuff when we get into opinions and tastes but the science behind it is quite fascinating and objective. I think some of the you tube review stuff is silly but one guy reviewer quotes “ the only one who has to like the sound of your system is you”. And it’s true.

And..... I just realized your in Florida near the water, ( as evidenced by your window that looks out that way so no speakers can go there!!!! Ha. ) I love watching YouTube videos of Haulover Inlet!! Crazy stuff that is. Nice boats though! Wow. You ever navigate that inlet? You mentioned fishing.

Glad your loving the m100. How was the ti tweeter to swap in and out? Easy enough? Ian had 4 of them for you?

The Next Best Thing video was very well done Ian and Jay looked very comfortable on the dock there. He also has another inside Axiom aswell. I've been watching their vids for a couple years now.