Re: Speakers in family room
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Why would that be so? Optimizing a single seating position is different from tweaking for multiple seating positions. And in my current setup, the center channel is the weakest link, but only when pushed to higher volumes than I'm willing to listening to. The left/right channels hardly do any work. I should also point out to UK_AV that Axiom held the prices on the VP160OW and VP180OW before the August price adjustment, and should factor that into whatever equipment they decide to go with, before Axiom realizes their mistake (if it was a mistake). I will corroborate Mojo's difficulty in using tower speakers in small and medium sized rooms. My Nuance 330 speakers didn't need a subwoofer, but it only worked well in large and open rooms. Edit: I reread the OP, and I think he just needs to decide which surround speaker to pick.
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I've heard the 330s. I couldn't tell I was listening to speakers. Really good feeling.
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Winslow Burhoe was the speaker designer for Nuance. He's bounced around quite a few companies in his career (EPI, Boston Acoustics, Acoustic Research, and API/Energy). He strikes me as an old school engineer, his website mentions nothing about the NRC or the family of curves. http://directacoustics.com/?page_id=56But he did get results. I bought the M22ti in 2006, and all it had to do was equal the midrange and treble of the 330's (I wasn't expecting a bookshelf to have the bass of a tower). Instead, it wasn't even close, and I returned the Axioms. The Kanto Yumi's I bought in 2015 sounded different from the 330's, but I considered them equals. The M5HP is the most neutral loudspeaker I've ever owned, and there's no going back. But I don't dismiss anyone who ever bought a Nuance speaker package in the 90's, they probably overpaid, but they got good Canadian sound for that era. And returning to UK_AV's question, a 5.1 system with multipolar surround speakers would be fine. I have my tripolar Angstrom Suono 100SD's on the floor 110º from the front, and it works great. I don't have experience with Atmos and would defer that to someone else.
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His speakers remind me of the Bose free space array.
M22s are not good.
My doped up neighbor across the street has bookshelf Nuances that he bought in the early 90s. They're sitting on the floor and have absolutely wicked mid-bass. Certainly not linear at all.
One day when he's flying high I'll break into his place and borrow them until he gets down. Then I'll give all of you the facts on them.
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Edited.
In writing a reply I discovered I dont belong here anymore.
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A QS10HP just came up in the refurb section, and the price is right. The OP ought to grab it, you won't do better during Boxing Week.
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I'm picking up the M3OW. I'll have an M2, M3 and M5 in the living room so I can switch between 480i, 720p and 1080p holographic resolution.
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I'd like to have 5.1 or even 7.1, and hopefully 1/2/3/4 height speakers. I have added a plan to show the limitations/spacing Speakers need to be on wall, e.g. 1-2 ft above ear height, or at ceiling level. I can't have speakers on the ceiling. Ceiling is 8ft tall. Main front speakers are floor standers at position 1. I'm expecting to have dipoles for 5.1 at position 10 or 13 (or both for 7.1!). Wondering if/where to put atmos speakers. Sofa is against back wall, could possibly move out 20cm. Green squares show where I can put speakers anywhere up the wall, pink/red squares show where I can only place them at ceiling height. I have a room setup very similar to yours, but in an even smaller space that is 9'x10' with an open wall on one side. Where your couch is, I have an identical positioning with a sectional. I went with a 5.1 setup with 2 M5HP on walls, a VP100 on wall, and two QS10s. I couldn't be more satisfied with my setup honestly. Even though the QS10s are to each side of me, it still sounds like the sound is coming from behind and is a really engrossing experience. Don't worry much on your room setup as you can only work with what you have. The VP100 blends very well with the other speakers even though it doesn't have a larger woofer like the others. If I have to do it all over again, I might consider the vp160 on wall over the vp100, but I cant really knock on the vp100 as it sounds great and provides clear dialog.
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I was the one who tried to steer you from M5 to M2. My Jedi mind trick worked!
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