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That maybe … but I didn’t know about Toole till Late 90’s maybe 2000? … but that said there was something I liked about it …

Also, around that time, I heard a pair of Martin Logan electrostatics in which a triangle hung mid air suspended outside the boundary of the right speaker … clear, clean, and if I closed my eyes I would swear that someone was standing there playing it … it was obvious I needed to up my game … I was missing 2/3s of what I should have been listening ….

Just got a email they ship soon. cant wait been 4 years or so with only two channel

It'll be so much sweeter now.

I laughed when I saw the comment that they had no audiophile friends. I have friends with home theater setups, but none I would consider dyed-in-the-wool audiophiles.

It's almost a blessing to be satisfied with sound bar sound and not be lead down the dark side of pseudoscience that pervades the hobby.

No one's an audiophile...until an audiophile stirs up their room and they hear stereo for the first time.

It’s true. The disappearing act of sonic holography is the ultimate. And I suspect I’ve only just experienced the neophyte version of this. But it is incredible and addictive.

The holography you hear in the M2 and M3 is similar to other v4. I don't know about your M60ti. When I heard it, it wasn't set up for great imaging or soundstage.

As you move up, bass and SPL performance improves, images get larger, more distinct, with more space between them and soundstage expands.

In my new larger space here and with the new amplification and pre amp versus the Yammie nin the old space the m60 disappear easily but it is very specifc lcoation I must sit 2 seats only. Whereas the V4 m2 and m3 are much easier to disappear and much wider MLP that is available. Also the v4 provide a depth that the ti can not achieve or it's the fact that the "images" are cleaner and more concise with more "space " arond them.

"As you move up, bass and SPL performance improves, images get larger, more distinct, with more space between them and soundstage expands."
Agreed, I view the volume knob as a focus knob, bringing things into focus by adjusting the apeture. Thumbs up!

Very interesting. My ALFRs disappear no matter where one sits. Maybe the other v4 Axioms do too- I've never listened for that. But it's only at the MLP that the soundstage, imaging and fidelity are perfectly aligned into a holygraphic trinity.

I never thought of the volume knob in that way.

Mojo nope not going to be here until after Christmas ;( be three months almost then