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Re: Center channel quandry
#82107 02/20/05 03:46 PM
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Another phantom center advocate here.

I also had the VP100/150 dilemma, but thought why not try the phantom first. So far I have been happy with it.

IMHO a dedicated center is needed only if you have a serious HT room with 10K+ equipment. Otherwise it's not worth the trouble with placement, timber match, etc.


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Re: Center channel quandry
#82108 02/20/05 05:40 PM
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With all respect I must disagree, a phantom centre has a very very small sweet spot so if you are alone it may work out fine, but if friends come over or if you like to vary your seating position you are out of luck.

I don't have a serious HT room (very little in my life is serious , it's a living room with about $5k worth of electronics and even with my limited ability I have no problems with placement or timbre matching.




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Re: Center channel quandry
#82109 02/21/05 03:56 AM
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>>and even with my limited ability I have no problems with placement or timbre matching.

There's a man who knows where his towel is at...


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Re: Center channel quandry
#82110 02/21/05 07:24 AM
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Re: Center channel quandry
#82111 02/21/05 03:25 PM
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Thanks everyone, for responding. Based on all that's been said here and my extensive browsing of these and other forums over the weekend (yup, my wife was not happy), I think I'll give the axiom centers a go. I'll also give the phantom mode a shot once the mains come in, to see if that works better.

One thing I failed to clarify earlier was that although the room is 20x15x8, the speakers will go on the long wall, so the seating position will be about 12ft from them. I would prefer to get the VP100 over the VP150 (only because the VP100 is a better fit sizewise - I don't have a big TV right now). I'm hoping I don't lose too much soundwise.

It was mentioned in some of the posts that ray3 and maybe neverhappy did a test of the vp100 and the vp150 and did not find a significant difference between the two. Could someone point me to ray3's original post, please? I didn't have much luck locating it.

Thanks again!

Re: Center channel quandry
#82112 02/21/05 03:44 PM
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...but does he know where his towels is?

Re: Center channel quandry
#82113 02/21/05 05:06 PM
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"Nothing thin, metallic or off axis in my system"
I agree with Jorge fully.
I have the 150 and I think it is fantastic.
And it is expressing itself even better now that I have made the leap to multi-channel music.
As for HT, I played with the placement, and got plenty of goot hints on these forums.
Being able to line the front of it up with the mains helped quite a bit, getting it (as close as I can to)centered between the mains helped again, and then raising up the back (tilting it just a bit forward) a tiny bit - and I mean about a quarter of an inch - did even more.
If you have issues when you set it up, try all or some of those options and you will be very surprised at what a big difference small adjustments can make.
Enjoy!


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Re: Center channel quandry
#82114 02/23/05 03:47 AM
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Well, the order has been placed. Decided to go with the M60's, QS8's and the VP100.
Thanks for all you help!

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