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Would You STAND For This?
#86300 03/21/05 06:08 PM
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Love my Axioms etc. etc. but there is something that's driving me crazy.

I've got a 48" LCD, on a 23" stand, with a VP150 "perched" on top and M60ti's on either side.

What's driving me crazy is the "look" of it. The floor standing M60's seem far too low in relation to the TV and VP150, in fact the top of the speaker is 19" lower than the top of the tv.

Now I know it's just me as I've seen many photos posted here with towers siting a lot lower than the tv.

What I'm thinking of doing is making a stand (think of a low table) for the M60's to raise them at least a foot. Any thoughts on this?

Any real audible problems that I might encounter? I know the tweeters will no longer be at ear level but will that make any difference to my 58 year old ears?

For starters I'm going to raise them up on temporary supports just to hear how they sound.

Anyone else ever raised towers?



any answers, scientific or creative will be appreciated.



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Re: Would You STAND For This?
#86301 03/21/05 06:17 PM
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UGH! NO! I'd NEVER do that! Terrible Idea! Bad! Bad! Bad!








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#86302 03/21/05 06:20 PM
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Or you could lower the TV ...

I think Ajax did something similar with his M60's out of necessity (to purposely raise the tweeters above some furniture or such). He's easily amused, but I remember thinking he was satisfied with the results.

I say wall-mount those suckers!


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Re: Would You STAND For This?
#86303 03/21/05 06:25 PM
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I always ran my old crappy towers on a couple of concrete blocks to get the tweeters up to ear level. Didn't help much with the sound, I think they would have been boomy even if they were suspended 30 feet up in the middle of an open field.

I will probably end up raising the M60s in the new HT room, depending on how high the TV ends up. As long as I have my mighty 27" the M60s are OK without stands.

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Re: Would You STAND For This?
#86304 03/21/05 06:30 PM
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Absolutely - raise them a bit. Get the tweeters to ear level. If nothing else it will eliminate the angst everytime you look at them.

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#86305 03/21/05 07:07 PM
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Uh, most of you missed the point (unless I misread it)... Ford's talking about the aesthetics of it, he would be moving the tweeters ABOVE ear level just so the floorstanders look like a good height against the TV.

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Re: Would You STAND For This?
#86306 03/21/05 07:08 PM
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I just got my FMS16's for my M22's. I'm wall mounting a plasma, w/ the center at eye level. The VP150 will be underneath it, sitting on a Salamander twin. I'm having the mount installed tomorrow, finished repainting the wall yesterday. That should put the center and sides at ear leve.

I put the M22's on stands yesterday and I'm running the system as 2 channel stereo probably until this weekend when I can get everything back together (hopefully). The M22's were slightly higher before, but now the tweeters are closer to ear level. Perhaps it's just psychological because the look is different, but I can tell a difference in the imaging. It's "more there", if that's a good way to put it. I was watching some HD shows w/ DD soundtracks but in stereo mode w/ no sub. Man, those M22's are still impressive. While the bass is sometimes lacking w/o the Hsu VT2, it's still got a little punch left. I still love my M22's.

Re: Would You STAND For This?
#86307 03/21/05 07:31 PM
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Whoops...

(backpedalling frantically)

... but YOU'RE missing the obvious point that men with bigger speakers tend to sit up straighter, which raises their ears to tweeter level and... (not helping, is it)


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Re: Would You STAND For This?
#86308 03/21/05 08:12 PM
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Jack, that's the look I'm after, how tall are those?
Bren you got the point, the tweeters will be higher than my ears.


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Re: Would You STAND For This?
#86309 03/21/05 08:44 PM
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About 13 inches roughly. I just hacked up a 2x12 to make the base, and the box, and use a hunk of 1x10 for the top plate. Not particularly beautiful, but they did the job.

You could cut the 1x10 to match the shape of the M60 if you really wanted a nice look, and you could fill the box with stone, or something equally heavy, for stability. I wouldn't recommend sand unless you're a much better carpenter than I (almost anybody is). I had visions of a beach in my living room as the sand leaked out of all my lousy joints.

Will somebody explain to me why a 2x12 is actually 1 7/16 by 11. Sure can screw up the measurements.


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