Papajim,

Ray and Jack's suggestion of the 1804 refurb at E-cost for $299 is great but if you look you can find the 884 refurb at E-Cost which is essentially the same unit from their more B&M store line for $279. In fact if you check the Denon website the manual for this receiver the front page says AVR 1804/884 right on it. Just type in Denon in the search box on E-Cost, they are right next to each other and their description is identical. Hey $20 is $20 right.

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