...and now I feel bad Sushi. I just looked at page 27 of the tsx43 manual...didnt have to though, right when I saw it I knew that wasnt the receiver I have.

I have a tsx-41 (yes, I looked up the manual for that as not to lead you on another goose chase). I was at work when I typed the original message (I think I work too much), and got my numbers mixed up. Sorry for leading you down the wrong path, and thanks for all your help.