I called the main 800 number, and talked to a sales guy named David I think. I just said "Hey, I saw the Denon's MSRP on your site, I know you have to post that, but nobody pays MSRP. What's the best price you can give me?" and he said "1098 shipped" and I said "OKAY!"

M80s, EP150, QS8s, EP500, Denon 3808, PS3, Optoma EP1690

Patience is a virtue that can hurt you