The 3808 came last night, hooked it up today, have sound coming out of the speakers, that may be enough for now, until I have time to dig in to the feature set.

BTW the feature upgrade currently is free if you buy the 3808 now through March 31, although originally the cutoff was December so they may continue to extend the rebate offer if you purchase after that.

"If you try to turn toward it, you go against it."