The Denon main remote with touch pad, I don't own any other remotes. Are you talking about the "extra" modes like theater, stadium, etc.? I don't use those, I'm trying to cycle through the various PLIIx modes. Say I'm listening to music streaming on the internet, I normally use the stereo/direct modes, but sometimes I like to hit "Standard" and use PLIIx Music. Right now it is defaulting to PLIIx Cinema and won't change no matter how many times I hit the "Standard" button.

If I read the manual right, if I have "back" speakers turned on, then I should have options like Matrix on/off, EX, ES, for movies as well. Just seems to be locked on PLIIx Cinema.

It is strange that my older 2805 had a more friendly remote. The 3808 comes with a second remote for other rooms, but it does not seem to have the same buttons either...

I know I can't talk the wife into a Harmony, I'll just have to try and figure this out...thanks for the help..

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