Your problem with refurbs sounds like my problems with Sears. Some people don't have any problems with them. But (to make a long story short) I bought a lawn mower, oven, garage door opener, clothes, and some tool. And that's all I bought in that 4 year period. And all 5 of them were faulty products that quit working, or were very inferrior in some way. I'll never buy from Sears again.

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