Well you got what I meant. Sorry bout that but my first language is french, and I learn all my english by reading and listening english, so when people say put strain on this or that, than I try to use it... and well, I say thing like that :P

@Dakkon: has a hypothesis, if I had 3k to dish out on speaker only, what would you recommend?

Also I have to point out that we won't really put the sound Super Loud as we aren't that kind of person, and your like loud equals prolly to me: MY EARS ARE BLEEDING!!!! But since my parents are getting old...

And my conclusion is that Denon avr-1610 is enough right? Right?
And I might go for those M22 with the VP180, sounds neat.