yeah tom, that Yamaha model has already been discontinued, i just found out. the new # is a V471, but it dose seem to have all the Dolby this and that. The only problem i see, is if the wife insists the TV HAS to go over the fireplace, because it "LOOKS" nice. Which would kill any center channel.

At that point i'm not sure it's worth messing with this. I don't know what these amps do if there is no center channel, and what happens to the sound since you only have 4 speakers running.