Trevor, John and Bray make excellent points relative to the 985/2805. You might also want to look at the 983/2803. As far as ecost is concerned, the arrival of inventory is unpredictable and iffy at best. They receive units when Denon has something to send them. The "good stuff" moves pretty quickly. I'm surprised that the 3803 is still there.

I don't believe bray's referral is an "authorized" Denon etailer; you may want to check the Denon site. I'm not sure how important that is. When you buy from ecost, there is a 90 day Denon warranty. When I got my DVM-4800, I added another 12 mos (service provided through PCMall) for $30.