My point exactly. Was the conclusion to my original post not "we are all happy with our subs?" Have I not said over and over that this reflects MY personal opinion? Good, bad, or indifferent? Am I "shill" for Denon, to the detriment of Yamaha, HK, and others, if I mention I prefer my 2805 to another receiver?

"There's too many notes!" M22ti VP150 EP350 QS8 AVR-2805 SCD595 Panasonic DVD-S35