John, the thing between me and Cerwin Vega is that they were the first speaker I knew by name... to me, CV was a top name in speakers, I'd throw it around in the schoolyard when I was 12 or so... "yeah, man... someday, I'm gonna have a kick-ass pair of Vega's, man..."

Then I heard a pair.

Then I knew why bro's friends used to laugh at me.

One of the local engineers and I used to have an inside joke - the rock bar he worked at was CV top to bottom, from the wedges to the bass bins - used to say "well, at least they sound the same out of the box as they do after they've had beer and puke dumped in them!"

Just an off-handed comment, John.. sorry if I offended.

Bren R.