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Hey Brandon, you got your ears on? Did you go with the basic Khartaga mono package as shown on the Singapore or Breat Britain websites? How long ago did you get yours?
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Just had a wonderful visit with Klaus, learned a history of the Heritage of the Germany Symphonic line going back 20 years, and that the guts in the Odyssey amps are truely remarkable, not basic electronics.
Randy,
The electronics of a class A/AB are quite basic relative to a pulse-width modulated amp (what some call a digital amp) like the upcoming Axiom. Basic however does not mean poor quality.
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I wonder how much power one can drive into the M80s before reaching SPL saturation. Or maybe we don't want to know  .
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Mo, Alan has reported several times that Axiom has tested the M80s with up to 1200 watts for an extended period of time. There wasn't a detailed description given and most likely the primary interest was that the M80s suffered no permanent damage. The distortion(from the speakers, not the amplifiers)may have been extremely high at those levels, and nobody would operate their system in rational home listening in that way, but it illustrates the sturdiness of the M80s.
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In a recent discussion I had with axiom, I was told the 80's were subjected to 24hr/day for 2weeks straight at 700watts with 1100 watt peaks. This was during testing of the new amp. 
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John & Randy, I don't doubt the robustness for a single minute. But at what point does sinking more power into a speaker result in more heat loss than SPL gain? If you were to plot the relationship of SPL vs. input power, where would the knee of the curve be? Do you see where I am heading? BTW, I am fascinated by the thirst for more power on these forums  . It's something I'm trying to wrap my head around. I have 4,000 very live cubic feet and sit 8 feet away from my M80s. When I am listening to music, if I put more than a few watts into the M80s, I start to lose the imaging (not the center but rather left and right of centre) and I suppose this is due to reflections. And frankly, my ears can't take more than a few watts for a half hour listening session. I listen to music with less than a watt per side giving me 89W of headroom on the amp!
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Have you tried toeing-out your 80's.
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You know me by now. Of course I did  . My M80s sounded like my neighbor's Boses .
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Sure, Mo, I see your point. As I said, inputting that much power doesn't have any practical application for home audio. Clean amp power is cheap and plentiful these days and it isn't necessary to go very far into three digit price territory to get audibly flawless transparent amplification from any competently designed receiver. This is within their designed power limits of course, but the typical limits are more than adequate for nearly all home setups at safe listening levels.
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Sorry I hadnt responded earlier. Didnt have time to type up a post this morning before work and its been a longer day than usual. Quote:
Brandon, with your Odyssey's can you give me an idea of the levels you can achieve with your 80's. I'm not sure how big your room is, or how loud you have turned them up. As you know my issues with the Emotiva shutting down at 100dB's from 12ft away, and the Emotiva is rated to have more power than the Odyssey?
Of course, Emotiva says my RS meter is not a reliable tool for SPL, and is good only for basic setup/calibration.
My room is about 4,700 cubic feet. I did a short volume test this morning using my RS analog SPL meter playing some tracks on Santana's "Supernatural" cd. I can easilt get 105db average on the slow response from 10-12' away. I didnt turn it up even louder because i simply didnt really want to loose my hearing quite that early in the morning. Im confident I could play at those levels all day. Not that I would ever want to mind you. Like i had said in your other emotiva post I was getting 30v peaks on music and that was LOUD. Not to mention i could feel puffs of air coming out of the ports from 2 feet away  As im sure Klaus has told you he believes more in current than watts.
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Haloeb, thats some real nice looking setup you have, would love to have a listen to that gear, very nice job!!
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Hey Brandon, you got your ears on? Did you go with the basic Khartaga mono package as shown on the Singapore or Breat Britain websites? How long ago did you get yours?
What Ive got isint really the basic Khartago. Mine have the cap upgrade which brings them to 120,000 each. For a total of 240,000uf. Its also got the groenberg internal wiring and i believe some upgraded resistors or capacitors on the board itself. I got mine last october. To be honest with you im not 100% sure what exactly they have. Klaus just said what I was getting would be good so i trust him! He delivered! Mine do however have the older green circuit boards in them. Yours will have the newer red boards which I believe are slightly better. Klaus's products really deliver an outstanding price-performance ratio. All the transistors are hand matched. Each amp is biased for your system and input voltage. And heck even the cool custom nameplate on the back.
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