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Mojo - On a serious note - the post about the $28,000 speaker was satire.
When I did a blind comparison between the M100's and Legacy Signature SE's 4 years ago, the M100's came across as the more musical speaker. Legacy made one of my all time favorite speakers - bought a pair of their Model 1's in 1988.
People were astonished when I preferred the Axioms with the dome tweeters over the 2015 Legacies with a ribbon. This got me thinking about some truly great speakers - like Harbeth -that use domes.
The whole point is that if one takes the Active/Passive 1100's or M100's ... the drivers used can match the drivers from some $15,000 to $100,000 speakers.
And instead of a speaker with built in subs (more satire) - the true superspeaker would be a pair of Active 1100's with a pair of EP800's - similar in form/factor to the Infinity IRS systems of 25 years ago - but much more affordable.
A pair of LFR-1100's, a pair of ADA-1500-5 and a pair of EP800 subs is under $17,000 in the "I can wait 21 days" option.
This is amplification, signal processing, a sound power window that Wilson Audio can't touch for $200,000 and 10 Hz bass with musicality to match anything JL Audio can muster in terms of subwoofer.
This system is so good it is limited primarily by the software - in other words - how well is the music recorded. I can easily hear the difference between the best Spotify and my CD player. The CD player is much better.
For some humor ... "ribbons? we don't need no stinking ribbons!"
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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
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Mojo - On a serious note - the post about the $28,000 speaker was satire. Yeah dude. I know. I'm insane; not stoopid. When I did a blind comparison between the M100's and Legacy Signature SE's 4 years ago, the M100's came across as the more musical speaker. Legacy made one of my all time favorite speakers - bought a pair of their Model 1's in 1988. Craig, I've read everything you've ever written on-line. I am your number 1 fan! The M100v4 is the highest fidelity and most dynamic speaker I've ever heard. BTW, when you bought your Legacies, I thought Realistic was hi-fi. A pair of LFR-1100's, a pair of ADA-1500-5 and a pair of EP800 subs is under $17,000 in the "I can wait 21 days" option.
This is amplification, signal processing, a sound power window that Wilson Audio can't touch for $200,000 and 10 Hz bass with musicality to match anything JL Audio can muster in terms of subwoofer.
This system is so good it is limited primarily by the software - in other words - how well is the music recorded. I can easily hear the difference between the best Spotify and my CD player. The CD player is much better. Damn it! I will only have two 500v4 up front and an 800v4 in back. I better upgrade to twin 800v4 up front.
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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
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Four EP600s is another good subwoofer match for the LFR1100 Actives. It gives you 2,400 watts of continuous subwoofer power and will smooth out the bass response in your room.
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Re: Triggered pulled - Active LFR-1100's are on order!
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Craig, Ian is giving you advice.
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Craig, did you toe them in as Andrew suggested in his blockbuster youtube vid?
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The basic layout of our room .... 44 x 14.5 feet with 7.5 foot ceilings. Concrete walls and floor with 2x4 under drywall, fully insulated.
Thick carpet pad with a very high quality carpet. At 2/3rd from front to back, a stairway with same carpet that does a great job eliminating any echoes.
Dual subs work the best, as the rear of the room is quite dead, and also 25 feet from the listening position. EP800's are flat to 11 Hz in room at 4 listening positions.
Tried a bit of toe in, but straight on works better in our room. It is a live front and very dead back room.
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OK. Do they come in an inflatable version? I ripped my shoulder bone off my body bone while spear throwing.
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Craig, where do you plan to set up your subs relative to the actives?
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Mojo - I am not sure. For a cool look, next to the speakers might work - but for best sonics, I may cross them at 40 Hz and place them behind the listening position.
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My 800 is behind and fires across the room diagonal.
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