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girlfriend doesn't like stands for m22s
#56699 08/06/04 08:03 PM
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I have had the m22s for about 2 weeks now. I am very happy with the sound particularly for acoustic instruments and vocals. Slightly less great when dealing with electronic instruments and poor cds but I was warned of this. The bass was perfectly described by Axiom's Alan as 'pleasant'. I would be tempted to say that the m22s don't color the music but do color my listening habits a little.

My only real problem is the look of the ss16 stands - the base doesn't look great to me and my girlfriend hates it. So I am trying to decide on what to do
a) get nicer stands - seen a few on the web but nothing which looks a whole lot better
b) get m40s - emotionally against going from 3 drivers to 2 so this is out
c) get m50s - extra money doesn't seem extortionate but bit worried the sound may actaully be a step down in clarity from what I have now - I have read some of the comparisons and some indicate the loss of detail is only likely to be noticeable in a strict a/b comparison, others say it is very striking - obviously this is rather subjective thing :-(
d) get the m60s - this is way more than I ever intended spending at the outset of my speaker buying adventure but maybe it is a good long term investemnt. Even if I do break the bank, slight concern with m50s and m60s is that I won't be sitting far enough away from these speakers - I will have the speakers about 7 feet apart and my ears will be about 9 feet from the front of each speaker ( room is about 20x13x8)

any thoughts welcome

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Having compared the M50s and the M22s, you probably won't notice the difference unless you compare them side by side. Of course, if you do notice the difference and prefer the M22s, you'll be miserable.

There are some good stands at http://www.racksandstands.com

I had the same issue you did--"boxes on sticks" have extremely low WAF, which is part of the reason I got the M50s. That and good reviews, and the same thought process you went through about the 40s.


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i think the 40's would be a downgrade from what you have now.. the 50's and 60's IMO would be an improvement, but they will sound different.. that doesnt mean bad, just different.. you will definitely get a better bass/low end response with the 50's or 60's.. and the highs and mids are still there, dont worry bout that.

9 feet is plenty of room in front of the speakers.. there is a volume control ya know..

if you dont wanna spend on new speakers, make sure you do a good search for stands.. there are some really nice ones out there. check here and here. there is a great selection on both those sites.

if all else fails.... SELL THE GIRLFRIEND!!!

EDIT- dang it ken.. quit stealing my links.....

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Look at the post times, buddy...


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#56703 08/08/04 06:09 PM
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pmulvey,

Interesting comment about how the M22s color your listening habits. I feel exactly the same way. I've got 600+ CDs in my collection but I find myself avoiding a lot of them because they just don't sound right anymore. And then I can pop the same CDs in the car stereo and they sound fine. Not blindingly accurate, of course, but much more in line with the "sound" I remember. The trend seems to be that recordings are getting much better, but I hate having to avoid stuff just because the recording is poor or the Axioms are too revealing.


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#56704 08/08/04 11:00 PM
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I definitely experienced the same thing with my M60s, but now - 1 1/2 years later - even those CDs I tagged as bad recordings are at least listenable. Either the speakers broke in or my ears got broken in. There are still a few CDs that suck too hard to listen.

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bigwill- i pulled out some of my old cd's back from the 80's, and was listening to them this weekend while we were cleaning the house. i was shocked and surprised at just how BAD some of those old recordings were.. and i am talking that 80's, hollow, echoey heavy metal.. scorpions, ratt, motley crue, dio, twisted sister, quiet riot, dokken, etc. i was appaled at how bad it sounded. my wife even made the comment, "gee, i really used to like this cd"..

a few that sounded pretty good, but not great by todays standards.. def leppard, iron maiden, and tesla..

what a difference a speaker makes!!

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#56706 08/10/04 01:49 AM
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Oh great, that's not what I'm needing to hear after deciding on and purchasing the M22's. lol

Being a musician and mostly preforming hard music, when I do listen to music, that's what I generally like to listen to, hard rock.

Well, shoot, so the M22's are not a hard rock speaker. Well, that's alright, music was never my primary focus anyways. I'm mostly a movie buff and that's what I build my system around, home theater, not so much music.

I wonder if my sub will help make a difference once I get it? That'll be interesting to see once I get it and fire up AC/DC, Kiss, or somebody.




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suttercane- i have M60's, not the 22's, but you will still have the same prob.. and its not just rock, its ANY music that has been recorded badly.

i think you will be pleasantly surprised with how GOOD AC/DC sounds, but you will hate the way KISS sounds. KISS's early recording with casablance are not good at all..

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The album covers sure were bitchin' though!

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