I don't doubt what you're saying, Eric. When I heard them in the pub with all that background noise, they sounded like a cross between an M3 and an M22. I was pretty blown away by the bass especially considering that they're sealed. I wish they'd get here already...it's been a half hour since I put in my order \:\) .

House of the Rising Sone
Out in the mid or far field
Dedicated mid-woofers are over-rated