Thanks very much Ray. I have tried the links you gave me and have talked to Axiom. I didn't get into room specs yet since I was still trying to decide between M and K and Axioms. Based on what I have read here and recommendations from folks like you I think I am going to buy Axioms except for the sub. I have tentatively decided on an SVS 25-31 PC+. I will see what I can find in the forum for room size and try to narrow down between M60 and M80. I haven’t ordered yet because I want to make sure my 3805 is delivered before the speakers so that my 30 days doesn’t start counting before I can listen! Based on what I hear there is almost no chance I will need it but I will take the safe route.