The 800F's sounded better to me in my room.....Kodiak if you can get a trial in your place I say go for!!! I am still surprised but in a good way!!While speaking to my dealer here in London told me Roger's is causing alot of problems with their Ignite boxes....pio elites now do not work with pass thru settings etc....don't like Roger's mad mad but have no choice in my area!!!

Paradigm 800F,Paradigm C600,Axiom QS8 v3,Paradigm DSP-3100 Sub,AVR Anthem MRX-740