Okay, another listening example, I'm in the puter room, my desk faces the listening area, with an 6' x 5' opening, the sub is like 30'' from me. Listening from here with a 90 - 100 dB peaks, I have good sound, I can pick out both QS8s, and two of the front 80's, third is a bit bloked by the wall, but still hear it. Running in 5.1 for the sacd, and to me, for a system that is not tweaked, its cool.