Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Axiom M80's vs Revel F36 or Focal 826's?

Info on the tweeter here.

https://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php/topics/400862/new-tweeter

Ok here’s another thought about your choices….

Looking at the Focals and the Revels it seems like a better or closer apples to apples comparison would an m60hp. Not an m80.

The focal carries the same driver complement as the m60hp as do the Revels. The Revel loses me at a 2 1/2 way crossover. I think I’d go for a true 3 way crossover. So that leaves the Focal. They’re certainly cheaper. They look nice too.

Maybe the only reason to get an m80 is the headroom of dynamics at high SPL they could provide over an m60hp. But unless you’re really cranking it loud frequently or have a massive room to fill then the m60hp in my humble opinion ( believe it’s humble , I’m a relative newcomer to this hobby but I’m learning ) would be plenty capable. And the v4 m60hp appears more linear to top it all off over the m80hp v4.

My m60ti , while yea they are older and not as linear as v4 , sound great and went from great to excellent when I upgraded my integrated to an amp and pre with matched rms values and high capacitance in reserve. It really mattered.

Plus the m60hp shows more wood at the base of the speaker with the shorter grill. So you get to enjoy more of that awesome real wood veneer, that you get to choose!

Make the choice that’s best for you , of course, I think in the end it’s always good. It’s like more and more things out there now, it’s less about better or worse it’s more about preference and personal taste.

Edit: I should say too my room is on the large side and the m60 plays plenty loud and with satisfying emotion. I have added a cheap sub to augment the bottom end. But an v4 Hp probably has a better low end than ti. My m3v4 have great low end in my master bed, it’s smooth and natural.

The OP should be considering the Revel F208 (or the slightly smaller F206) which are 3-way setups and have been reviewed highly by many over the years, not just mags, but also including high scores on the Olive scale and thumbs up by Audioscience Amir. I've been considering a pair of F208s for the main floor myself.

You speaketh facts!

Ok spoke with Andrew in sales today now to decide on the brand & whether if it is Axiom's again to go with either the M60HP or reg, M80's if staying with the Axiom's......hmmmm...hate this hobby at times.Thanks to all so far for your valuable input/suggestions!!

If you choose Axiom ( you should absolutely use the trial period ) I say M60hp all the way with solid quantity and high quality amplification. I don’t think you gain anything by going with the m80 over the m60hp in fact I hunk you lose a little bit. ( splitting hairs ). I guess you get higher SPL and more power handling in tbe m80 and maybe they have an aesthetic you like better? I think hunk the brown xtra money is better spent on HP versus the extra tweeter and mid range.

M60hp and m100. That’s on my short list for my upgrade when it happens. And I’ve got a MASSIVE room. And like I said, you get the linearity and the integration of the m60hp. I enjoy it loud, really loud sometimes but not so often that it’s the defining factor. Now that I’ve added solid and quality amplification the emotional strength of the music is there and I’m not chasing it with the volume knob anymore. I find different music styles needs different volumes of SPL ( that’s another thread discussion some day).

Anyway I’m rambling on here but you’ve got some good choices and options. Happy choosing!! Fun stuff!! ( any chance to bet both the axioms and one other to do an unofficial ab test? That would be the way to do it.

Hi Kodiak: thanks for your input...with my current M80's the bass is very rich,detailed not boomy what so ever....I'm guessing the M60's in the HP trim would continue that sound quality?my room is 20' wide 14' deep with 8.5 ceilings.....that comes to about 2200 cubic feet...I listen at about -30db(after running arc on my new Anthem MRX740 ) movies at about -22db's find it is plenty loud...sometimes louder then these but most of the time that is it.The 80's sounded more open then(going way back) then my old M69ti's.There is my final question(yeah right,LOL) thanks Kodiak & everyone else!!!

That is a perfect size room for M60s! You don't need HP drivers. Use the money you save for QS10s.

I had M5s in my 4200 cu. ft. room, 12 feet apart and I sat 14 feet away. I loved them! Far better than my M80v2. The M60 non-HP will be just as awesome. According to Ian, M60 is the way to go over M5 unless you absolutely must have bookshelves.

I'd expect the M60 to compare favourably with Revel's F206 and the M60HP with the F208. The M60 is also easier to drive than the 206 (not sure about F208). Careful with the M60HP though. That might be more of a 4 Ohm load. Axiom would know.

Did you mean M80HP with F208?

The F208 is 8” drivers.