I went out to A4L and looked - they have an Onkyo 828 available. The biggest difference I can see is that it has built in WIFI. I am going to play the ignorance card here. Why would I want WIFI? Other than Pandora etc? There is also a 929 for a considerable jump in price.

I think that we established last time that A4L is reputable and that refurbs may be even more desirable than brand new. Open to discussion about it, however.

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