Originally Posted By: mdrew
I really don’t understand why there is any debate at all that the Ninja crossover will not make a difference is sound. I have no doubt it will, and it will most likely be an undeniable difference. Whether it is better or not will be a personal choice.


I agree with Mike here.

I don't really think there's any question that the mod will make an M22 sound different. We can debate whether or not "higher end" crossover components make a difference, but certainly the changed crossover point will.

I think the waters have been muddied between those discussing whether or not the mods are legit, and whether or not the OP should be getting "bashed".

My concerns were the methods of introduction.

Someone new shows up and says "Hey, this new thing is great! Let me give you a link to the website!". Then the person who markets the new thing immediately shows up. He starts posting and then[i] asks "Hey Ian, can I post?". Of course, with the spotlight on the Axiom folks, could they really say "we prefer that you didn't as we have rules against selling and marketing here"? THEY would have come off as the bad guys. From the outside, it appears the same as [i]other times when someone new shows up extolling something, followed closely and coincidentally by a rep for the company.

Then, though the OP was a moderator in the past, he lists his e-mail address in the thread.... which any moderator knows would normally only be done in a PM. His posts always contain his website info…just in case you're interested. He offers, in essence, a "free trial" for public comparison, but then backs out of the comparison part.

I'm not saying he's a creep or a troll. My guess is that he's a nice guy offering a legit service, but my radar flashed warnings of being scammed or "sold" in a subtle way because of all the "coincidences".

And no, I don't think we were mean. We have a nice community here and someone came in who was (appearing to be) a little slick. Despite the few that are crying "foul" and that we never accept dissenting opinions, I think we as a forum are VERY accepting of other opinions of speaker and equipment preference.

But, we also look out for each other. I think we, as a forum, have a right to cast a wary eye on the whole thing and police ourselves a bit.

This forum does NOT simply exist in free space. It is hosted, paid for, and moderated by a company. That we have amazing flexibility in discussing competitors' products favorably is TRULY the indication of Ian and Amies' generosity, openness and non-competitive nature. I've been on many forums over the years that would find a post deleted within 5 minutes if it mentions the competition or anything negative about the organization or hosts' products or services.

Ninja should have contacted Ian and Amie, via private PM, at the earliest stage of this, to ask whether or not it would be OK for him to post as he was representing a service and product. Especially one that is a mod of our hosts' product. Because, let's face it, by announcing that your product improves on the original, you have to talk a bit about possible shortcomings in the original.

It just wasn't handled well on Ninja's end. As someone who was a forum moderator, he should have known better.





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