I didn't mean to imply that Hsu subs settings should be under 9 o'clock or anything like that. I have my speaker and sub levels calibrated using my handy RS meter. But as I said, properly set, the gain control on my VTF-2 is barely turned up at all. That was my point.

Barring a couple recent threads, it rarely gets cranky around here. I used to visit several other boards regularly, and nothing compares with the great crowd of guys we have here.