Guys, if you go back a few pages, Rick mentioned he was looking at other manufacturers too, including Ascend. Just as other subs are mentioned here, I don't think it's wrong to bring up other brands esp when the original poster asks for other alternatives. Imo, there's been some misunderstanding here.

Of course, if someone starts recommending Bose, we may need to sedate them.

Half of communication is listening. You can't listen with your mouth.