Say say, I was looking around that webpage you pointed me to JonK and found this.

http://www.dakmart.com/p11038/Denon-AVR-...oduct_info.html

Value wise it is not better than the one you pointed me to but it allows me to grow my system, also I read in a 5.1 configuration you can double amp two main speakers, so if I got an m60 or something it might be able to provide it with some more juice anyway.

do you think that one or save cash and go for the 589?