Living in Minnesota, which is renowned for months of snow and ice and really hazardous drivers, I long ago learned the lesson that to invest $30,000 in 4 wheels is a bad idea and a real waste of money. So, I haven't purchased a car from a dealer for a long, long time. If I need wheels, I simply scour the classifieds until I find a private owner selling something I could live with, until some nut on ice smashes into it.