I have to agree with Jason on this one, Also both M60s and M80s sounded similar, the differences were more than subtle, at least to me. Then, it's up to the consumer to decide which one he likes best. I went to the factory to A/B them, I brought home the M80s, my friend however liked the M60s better.

Bruno
M80s/VP180/QS8s/EP600/AVR-890
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"The problem is choice..."