Originally Posted By: RickF
 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
Ya know, assuming Mark is guilty, AV123 still made decent products. I've heard and seen some of them. They sounded pretty good (I'm biased towards Axiom, of course), and they looked gorgeous.

Now, this was before the MLS debacle, so maybe things changed.

At least while he was allegedly defrauding his community and customers, he wasn't making really shoddy products.


That's the baffling part Ken. I once worked for a guy who did something similar, lost a heck of a business because he just had to have that little extra.


Bernard Madoff is a great case study of this sort of thing. If you ever can see a special on him, watch it. Lots to learn about human psychology. Different industry but similar in some instances.

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