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My first Axiom order consisted of speaker wire and a full metal ceiling bracket. I need to have on in hand to see how it would work for my surrounds. I spent 2 hours in my attic yesterday pulling speaker wire to the surround locations and installing supports. So now I have the infastructure in place but nothing to hook up, yet. OK thats coming but I needed to get this done first. I can't place my order for the Factory Oulet Epic Grand Master-500 until about mid June (why wasn't I born wealthy?). But crawling around in the attic in June in the desert southwest is not recommended. When its 110 outside its closer to 130 in that attic. Until then I have to wait patiently.