SO my possiblilties are and thinking is
I do not need a VP180 HP a VP180v4 is all I need as for music I like 2 ch. and no subs. If watching movies well I will have subs turn on and that would be good enough.

1) Keep my v3 M80's and VP180 and just add the Subs.
2) M80v4 and VP180v4 and Subs
3) M60v4 HP with a VP160v4 and Subs
4) M80HP and VP180 with Subs

Mind you I would prefer no subs with music, but just need to know if I am going to get that extra bottom end in the M80HP for two channel. I don't go extremely loud with music, maybe I guess a bit above average. Whatever that can mean. I guess to say if I am watching a movie my Pro is at about -15db. with music maybe -10db to - 6db if in the mood. Other than that probably the same level -15db. Now, I am using a Anthem MCA50 385w per and Anthem AVM30 pre/pro if that helps figure something out. I used the sound meter and set the reference to 75db at -15db on the dial


Anthem MRX520
M5HPv4
VP160HPv4
QS10v4