If you go back to 1993 or so, I had the top of the line Onkyo receiver (TX-SV909PRO). I loved that unit. It was built like a tank, But at the time the surround formats were kind of in flux and within a few years started to feel bit stale. I kept it anyway waiting for things to settle. Used it for audio only for a while and then gave it to my cousin when we moved to a place that didn't have a great place to put a system. I was actually sad to part with it. It served me well for almost 10 years and it' may still going. So, I know what you mean Mojo.