Agreed, Mark!

That's no surprize! I have what can best be considered as an acoustically challenged listening room!(16.5x27)

A stone fireplace to one side about 20 degrees off-axes and a wide open area to the other. I had great imaging in my old house with my M3s, but the M3s fell apart when we moved in here. I also had good bass in the old house with the M3s, but not so here either, although, yes, I AM sitting about three feet farther back!! Plus I have to put my M50s in CABINETS!! So yup, the lack of bass(and imaging)is much more a product of the room than the speakers! In fact, if I haden't had experience with the M3s in the old house first, I'd have been more than just a little disapointed with them, and probably would't have updated to M50s!