Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion The Water Cooler Bin Laden is Dead

I haven't seen any evidence. Statements by politicians or the US Military Manual after being massaged by the politically correct is not evidence.

Let's assume for the sake of the discussion that torture is, on occasion, when inflicted by masters of pain and persuasion, a method by which reliable and actionable information may be obtained quickly.

I assume we all agree that torture is terrible.

Now, when you weigh the terrible nature and negative consequences of torture, on the one hand, against the value of obtaining information in possession of a captive that if given would save one life, one hundred lives, a hundred million lives ... or for the militant PETA and ELF members, out there, the lives of 10 goldfish and a Pit Bull, the calculus cannot be so easy.