The M80s already supposedly sound a little different from when I bought them, which I'm curious about, and if Ken is pushing for magnetic grilles on all of the speakers, maybe an M80 v3 is due to come out which matches a little better to this new *ahem* v3 VP180. And with the mention by Gene of M60v3s, maybe the whole Axiom line is being voiced slightly differently. There's my conspiracy theory of the night.