I have some 9se's that were nice. I say were because I picked up the Axiom M60's and they blow the 9se's away. The 9's do beat the M22's I have but I like the footprint on the 22's so I go with them for music only. The 9's are a nice speaker but again they are "nice" where the M60's are great. I just picked up the M60's about two weeks ago so I do have recent experience. MarkB, since the Axiom's seem to be a no brainer why not just buy a pair and if you don't like them send them back. You seem to be asking about other speakers but you do not want to listen to the Axioms. I'm a little confused as to your path. Another good speaker that you should look into are the Rockets at av123.com. I've heard great things about them and they have a message board you can post on as well.