I hear you there. When I boxed up my SVS for shipment to Texas a few months ago, I didn't have the original packing contents, so I had to get creative. (After all, I didn't want negative audiogon feedback on my first transaction!) While my outer box may not have been beefy enough, I put so many layers of protection inside that box you probably could have stabbed it with a Ginsu knife multiple times without damaging the sub. Drop kicks from 12' are a different story, though.