I have to say, I'm loving the sound coming out of the Pioneer now. It sounds like my old system sounded. Mucho bass. Seems raising the mic to be about a foot higher than the backs of the high back couch made all the difference. Also no shrill noises coming out of the speakers to hurt my ears.

Later when I replace some of my banana plugs, I'll try the same with the Denon and see it that makes a difference with it.