I took advantage of Toyota's woes during the downturn of their sales after the 'unintended acceleration issue'. I did well on our purchase of a 2011 Venza at that time.

Better deals when they are hungry.

Just about to catch the train out of Ottawa to Vancouver. The long range out of Toronto 'Train #1' is already 3.5 hours late - now departing at 0130 AM...

TAM