pmb, I had originally written a few sentences that did sound like stuff from the spinners, but I took them out.

Kerry's position is incredibly insulting and offensive to voters and the democratic process in the ways I described above, but also in that he SUPPORTED the war against Saddam this time. There was no intelligence that I know of, pre-dating the war, that said Saddam did not have WMD of some sort. Everybody thought they were there, including Kerry.

For Kerry to say the war is a mistake and yet still wish to prosecute it is like a football coach telling his team at half time, "We shouldn't have scheduled these guys. We have no chance - it's a complete disaster. It was a mistake and we shouldn't even be here. But it isn't my fault, I was only an assistant last year. Now let's go out and win this one under my brilliant leadership, eh?"